still i belive he should of bein walked the amount neccasarey for a while after the incindent and then if it still found he is ha then put to sleep

If we are to change the public's perception of them then WE as the fancier's should stop looking for excuses for bad dog's and get back to basic's and cull ALL the dog's that show human aggresivness.

i would agree about bad dogs but what constitutes a bad dog?

he was 8 months in a kennel, which can be a stress environment for the toughest of dogs. he had no interaction with kids under 16 in all that time and possibly not before that either. maybe he had a very bad experience with some little shyte? so then he's suddenly dropped into a new home and a kid which is another high stress situation.

that to me sounds like a confused and frightened dog displaying a bit of defensive aggression, not some wild killer beast.

i dont work in rescue but it doesnt take an idiot to figure out he should never have went to a home with kids. why should the rescue's misjudgement result in his death when he could have lived a perfectly good life away from children? and as a rescue he's already neutered so know one can stud him anyway.

if i can avoid dolly fighting with the endless stray cats in my complex then a responsible owner can keep his dog away from kids! arent we meant to keep them on lead and muzzled or do we just assume no one does?

So every time a friend/family member comes over you tell them to fuck off because your dog will eat their child?

Doesn't sound great to me

you put the dog out the back or seperate room. my parents put their roxy in a different room when one particular niece comes to visit.

thats a non-issue IMO

Buzmud stop making excuses for the dog. I don't like shelter's but they did the right thing. I've seen how a good dog's temperament can and is altered by being in them place's, and I'm not saying Jasper's wasn't. Every dog that you read about in the paper's almost alway's has a history of being HA on previous occasion's. If those stupid owner's wouldn't give them second chance's then they wouldn't make life hard for the rest of us.

the dog growled at someone id agree that they should be put down but what im saying is it was caused by the rescue not giving the dog what it needed

how is making a case for what a life is worth 'making excuses'? if someone is gonna take a life they should be the ones excusing themselves with valid reasons.

a few of us have already made it clear that we dont believe it was a decision made with valid reasoning, telling us we're wrong cause he's a bad dog isnt gonna change our mind when we clearly hold a strong opposing view

and if he couldnt be rehomed then plenty of rescues have lifers.

would you put your dog down if it growled and lunged at a kid but nothing came of it? if that was the case half there'd be a lot of good dogs put down because they had a 'moment' for whatever reason.

my staffie growled at me first night home from rescue yet the few on here that have met her saw she's a perfectly behaved friendly girl. she was in a new and strange situation and she got scared. i left her to it and gave her a little space and all was good after a bit. she's never once tried it on since.

most people with dogs have been around HA dogs at some stage, i just think PTS is for when all other avenues are exhausted. i also dont believe in the death sentence for humans, maybe the 2 are related in my mind.

we'll just have to agree to disagree.

There's plenty of healthy, stable, well-rounded dogs available, both as pups and adults.

I see no attraction to buying a dog that has had issues in the past!

As United said, it's dogs with HA problems (and there only has to be one) that can really stir up the shit for the rest of us. Leading to the APBT being legislated against or even banned.

i stand corrected that dog should of being pts as harry stated theres plenty of fine healthy puppys for sale or even fine rescue dogs like egans romeo and gemma and ur dolly but a dog which has showing any ha if the right hands are not avabile should be pts ...

I think its the fact the they kept it all Hush Hush , letting it out id drip&dabs, and the fact the egar offered him a home and they refused is what most people are angry about! And that it stated that was 're homed' on there website.And also a few of the so said comments a CEO made.
Boots has growled a few times at the OH, but thats all. Should he be PTS?
The day he goes to snap/ bite then he will be PTS! I'm always wary of boots always have been.I wouldn't play with him in the same way i would with any of the others. Lately tho he is learning whats enough and when!