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 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:44 am | |
| there are worse things in life for a dog than being humanely euthenized, personaly i wouldnt like to be respsonsible to home a dog that i knew had growled at a child , could you live with the consequences if an incident happned ?? whos fault would it be , and again the whole breed would suffer , a few years ago i would have been in uproar hearing things like this but now i have to say i wouldnt like to give or to be given a dog that has already growled at a child no matter what breed , but obviosly have to be even more careful the larger the dog ect , it is unfortunate for poor Jasper and i do hope he is at peace now poor dog xx |
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Hayls25 Daddy


Posts: 1953 Join date: 2011-03-16 Location: Gorey, Co. Wexford
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:16 am | |
| Well now we know what really happened, I think it was in everyone's best interest that Jasper was pts.. I would not take in or condone anyone taking in any breed of dog that's ha.. Maybe it's cos I have kids I just couldn't put any animal's welfare before their's. And if my dog even looked at one of them the wrong way he'd get a slug in him!! Obviously they know what's acceptable around the dog too |
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bootspitty TOP DOG


Posts: 3827 Join date: 2010-04-13 Age: 21 Location: Clondalkin
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:10 pm | |
| There was a volunteering ordination on the 7th of Jan , when the CEO said''All pitbulls are put down because they are bred for fighting due to insurance reasons'. Also that 'Alot of other rescues send them to Sweden and other countries where they don't know what happens to them'. A member of staff also commented saying' Pitbulls that are born in the shelter or young puppies will be rehomed'.
I think alot of people are confused about there poilcy, and the the dspca are giving out the wrong message. Staff member said that they are a 'low kill shelter' then a video on there website say 'they never put a healthy animal down' _________________  |
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jumper TOP DOG


Posts: 4438 Join date: 2010-05-06 Location: The Bog of Allen
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:14 pm | |
| | bazmud wrote: |
would you put your dog down if it growled and lunged at a kid but nothing came of it? if that was the case half there'd be a lot of good dogs put down because they had a 'moment' for whatever reason.
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EVERY dog that growls and lunges at a kid should be PTS, there would be far less scarred children in the world if this was the case
@Boots, while we all agree that EGAR do some good work, they put a whole new meaning on the term "Bleeding Heart", NOT all dogs should be given a second chance or should be kept alive just to prove a point |
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Harry Bully


Posts: 768 Join date: 2011-02-22 Age: 16 Location: Roscommon
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:15 pm | |
| @Boots
I don't know why you're getting so annoyed about it.
An Aggresive dog was PTS. Simple as. I can see no reason to keep it alive when there's better dogs out there, which don't have the problems. |
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bootspitty TOP DOG


Posts: 3827 Join date: 2010-04-13 Age: 21 Location: Clondalkin
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:34 pm | |
| | Harry wrote: | @Boots
I don't know why you're getting so annoyed about it.
An Aggresive dog was PTS. Simple as. I can see no reason to keep it alive when there's better dogs out there, which don't have the problems. |
My Last Post Has nothing to do 'Jasper'. It has got to do with there poilcy to 'Pitbulls' in General!_________________  |
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christy Daddy


Posts: 1459 Join date: 2011-10-17 Age: 48 Location: dublin
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:06 pm | |
| ive been reading this from the start , i agree with pts for dogs that are HA
, but there are ppl out there THAT SAY PPLS DOGS WENT FOR THERE KID ? then change there mind , so dont believe all ye hear abt dogs being aggressive until ye are sure that they are , i know im being picky, the shelter ppl must have seen the dog growling at the child and they were right to put the dog down , circumstances are what make dogs react in all kind of manner, be it they run away bark with nerves and ultimate way out is to bite, its nature in the way they react, imo theses dogs should NOT be kept around kids where it puts the child in the path of danger dogs can change so quickly weather it be over a piece of food dropped on the floor or a simple toy , kids dont understand that the dog has claimed the toy , i know ppl wont agree with what ive said but thats the way i see things , n dont get me wrong i love all dogs , just this breed is very strong and powerful to have around kids incase things go wrong , |
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bazmud Junior


Posts: 398 Join date: 2011-11-08 Location: inchicore
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:16 pm | |
| nobody is saying every dog should have a chance but theres a few things to consider here.
1. a lot of people have met jasper and found him a perfect gent.
2. the story of his HA has gotten worse as the outcry got worse. why is that? first there was a small incident, then he growled and now he lunged with bared teeth. give us the truth from the start or expect a reaction when the lies unfold.
3. if the story of the first incident with a kid is true then why in gods name was he rehomed to a family. whoever made that decision killed jasper there and then.
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Harry Bully


Posts: 768 Join date: 2011-02-22 Age: 16 Location: Roscommon
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:28 pm | |
| | bazmud wrote: | nobody is saying every dog should have a chance but theres a few things to consider here.
1. a lot of people have met jasper and found him a perfect gent.
2. the story of his HA has gotten worse as the outcry got worse. why is that? first there was a small incident, then he growled and now he lunged with bared teeth. give us the truth from the start or expect a reaction when the lies unfold.
3. if the story of the first incident with a kid is true then why in gods name was he rehomed to a family. whoever made that decision killed jasper there and then.
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Where did it say he was rehomed to a family?
I thought he growled at the shelter, and was killed at the shelter. |
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jumper TOP DOG


Posts: 4438 Join date: 2010-05-06 Location: The Bog of Allen
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:35 pm | |
| if there was a genuine incident involving a child, then the dog is a liability to every child he may have met in the future & every responsible owner that doesn't want an incident involving the breed to result in a breed ban
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bazmud Junior


Posts: 398 Join date: 2011-11-08 Location: inchicore
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:42 pm | |
| | Harry wrote: |
Where did it say he was rehomed to a family?
I thought he growled at the shelter, and was killed at the shelter. |
Miriam made a statement on EGAR page saying it. its still on the page somewhere. he had an incident with a child at the shelter and was then sent out to a home with a little girl and went for her.
ive now read 3 statements and all are slightly different. i dont know whats true anymore. im certainly not advocating a dangerous dog staying alive but you have to question the truth because dspca are being very cagey and after what the CEO said, it all looks like a dodgy mess |
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jumper TOP DOG


Posts: 4438 Join date: 2010-05-06 Location: The Bog of Allen
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| ^if it was proven to your satisfaction that the Jasper dog was involved in an incident, would you agree with the action that was taken , PTS ?
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bazmud Junior


Posts: 398 Join date: 2011-11-08 Location: inchicore
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| after thinking about it for a few days, if he lunged with teeth bared then yes, the shelter had no option. i wish we had a sanctuary for slightly aggresive dogs to go and live their lives but we dont.
if he growled then i wouldnt agree. a growl to me would mean a 2nd chance.
and im not looking for proof, whats done is done. im just discussing it cause its quite a strange situation overall. |
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christy Daddy


Posts: 1459 Join date: 2011-10-17 Age: 48 Location: dublin
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:09 pm | |
| well baz the second growl may be the end of the child , ?? |
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Hayls25 Daddy


Posts: 1953 Join date: 2011-03-16 Location: Gorey, Co. Wexford
 | Subject: Re: Jasper the APBT looking for his new home Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:11 pm | |
| I have to agree that if the dog growled at my child, I wouldn't be giving him the chance to do it again! |
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